tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567108066562629559.post919592431984283334..comments2023-09-27T11:51:10.232-04:00Comments on A Perfect Storm Cometh: Build out: The Grid vs. The Household - Towards a Community-based Solution to CC and POccpohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02608765517662755393noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567108066562629559.post-49690010056220213982009-07-27T00:50:15.156-04:002009-07-27T00:50:15.156-04:00I'm intrigued.I'm intrigued.tomstephen@juno.comhttp://montevistapc.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567108066562629559.post-73884932618342291392009-05-26T06:21:47.761-04:002009-05-26T06:21:47.761-04:00Have seen these guys? They're aiming for open sour...Have seen <A HREF="http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/" REL="nofollow">these guys</A>? They're aiming for open source, village-scale technology. Trough solar, tractor/diggers, mud brick makers, and so on. <br /><br />Their approach is a bit sloppy in many ways - they recently had a drama over the toilet facilities, of all things - but that's to be expected in any small voluntary social group, and the basic thrust of it is right along the lines you're speaking of here, I think.Hanley Tuckshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13047638048463160737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567108066562629559.post-27070978446864696712009-05-26T00:45:10.660-04:002009-05-26T00:45:10.660-04:00Kiashu,
I agree. The idea of the build-out being ...Kiashu,<br /><br />I agree. The idea of the build-out being household-/community-based is that everything needs to be customized to the structure, needs of the occupants, climate, costs, etc. People living next door to each other in the same floor plan might well have different choices in terms of solutions. <br /><br />Ideally, these things would happen at the neighborhood and/or community level to maximize efficiencies of cost and labor. <br /><br />For a small community of 10,000 people, the grant from the government would be 50 million dollars. With pooled resources, many different solutions become possible. Small solar plants, geothermal plants, etc., might well be doable given local labor, management and materials. Localized low-tech hi-tech is the key.<br /><br />Cheersccpohttp://aperfectstormcometh.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567108066562629559.post-66147450499491715982009-05-25T20:46:27.032-04:002009-05-25T20:46:27.032-04:00Solar photovoltaic won't be replaceable, I think, ...Solar photovoltaic won't be replaceable, I think, since purifying silicon is such a hassle - but solar thermal might be. Parabolic mirrors and troughs with steam are not dreadfully high-tech. <br /><br />It's worth remembering that people don't actually want electricity. We want light, hot showers, cold beer and entertainment. Those can be had very easily with electricity, but need not be.Hanley Tuckshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13047638048463160737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567108066562629559.post-23113417409590301292009-01-20T05:20:00.000-05:002009-01-20T05:20:00.000-05:00Thanks for stopping by, Gail. Perhaps someday when...Thanks for stopping by, Gail. Perhaps someday when you are bored you could make some calculations (guesses) about the viability of this plan.<BR/><BR/>CheersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8567108066562629559.post-20798627802811961852009-01-15T20:01:00.000-05:002009-01-15T20:01:00.000-05:00CCPO-Nice post! I agree with pretty much all of it...CCPO-<BR/><BR/>Nice post! I agree with pretty much all of it. Look at this post of mine, in which I conclude that the future of electricity is local. http://www.theoildrum.com/node/4381<BR/><BR/>I am not sure what kind of electricity will work locally long term. Certainly water should be pretty good as well as small scale wind turbines. The current generation of solar PV will work but I doubt whether new solar panels can be replaced.<BR/><BR/>Given how close we seem to major decline, local electric seems like the only option.<BR/><BR/>Gail the ActuaryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com